P1 Registration (2012) - Phase 2C
For a child who is ineligible for or unsuccessful in earlier phases
Announcement of Results:
Friday 5 August 2011
Details: Click here
Results: Click here
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Updated 29 July 2011. The last day of Phase 2C is over. 22 more schools joined this ballot list, making the final tally of 89 schools who will be in a cut-off or balloting situation.
South View continued to increase its red hot statistics today to an application rate of 486%! That's almost 5 times oversubscribed. Assuming most of these applicants are within 1km, parents are looking at the stark prospect of having about 1 in 5 chance of getting their child a place in the school!
All the top 25 schools that we predicted earlier will be in some kind of ballot situation are now confirmed to require balloting once again.
Choa Chu Kang and Tampines Primary joins Frontier Primary, Edgefield and Yangzheng in requiring balloting in Phase 2C for the first time in 6 years.
Just a little note to end off this year's Phase 2C analysis. For the first time in 6 years, Jurong West does not have balloting at 1km in Phase 2C. In fact, it has no balloting at all! It would appear that most of those who would be gone for JWPS have chosen to go to Frontier, the new school, which caused the new school to take brunt of the demand.
We hope our analysis has been useful for parents and have helped you all to make better informed decisions throughout the P1 registration exercise!
Good luck to all those who will need to ballot next Friday! As long as you have a ready backup plan for contingency in Phase 2C(S), you shouldn't have to worry too much. Treat the winning of the ballot as a bonus, rather as a do or die situation, because it is your child that makes the school, as much as the school that makes the child. No matter which school your child gets into, what he or she needs more is your full support and understanding for at least the next six years.
Notes on Table
Vacancies vs 2010 Column
This shows the difference in vacancies offered by the school in 2011 versus 2010. A negative value shows a decrease from the previous year, which would intensify the level of competition for the seats this year.
Phase App Column
This shows the total number of applicants for the Phase versus the total number of vacancies offered for that Phase. 100% means all the vacancies offered for the Phase is taken up. More than 100% means there are too many registrants, and balloting will happen for that Phase.
Ballot Risk Columns
1. The Ballot Risk index ranges from 0.0 to 1.0
2. You should read it as a 3-part scale:
0.0-0.36: (Green) Risk of balloting only for those staying beyond 2km. Parents staying within 2km should not worry too much. As the value approaches 0.36, chance of balloting at this distance is actually very high. Any value above 0.36 means balloting at any distance is quite likely for that specific school.
0.37-0.78: (Yellow) Risk of balloting only for those staying between 1-2km. Those staying beyond 2km may not even have a chance to ballot. Parents staying within 1km may not need to ballot at all. As the value approaches 0.78, chance of balloting at this distance is actually very high.
0.79-1.00: (Red) Risk of balloting only for those staying within 1km. Anyone staying beyond 1km may not even get a chance to ballot at all.
| School | Vacancies vs 2010 |
TUR | 2C APP |
Historical APP | Historical Ballot Risk |
| 2C | 2C | ||||
| South View Primary | -10% | 100% | 486% | 254% | 1.00 |
| Rosyth | -9% | 100% | 450% | 305% | 1.00 |
| Rulang Primary | -10% | 100% | 438% | 291% | 1.00 |
| Red Swastika | -11% | 100% | 341% | 195% | 1.00 |
| Ai Tong | 0% | 100% | 340% | 174% | 1.00 |
| Northland Primary | 0% | 100% | 332% | 215% | 1.00 |
| Temasek Primary | -11% | 100% | 317% | 153% | 1.00 |
| St Hilda’s Primary | 0% | 100% | 303% | 305% | 1.00 |
| Nan Hua Primary | 0% | 100% | 300% | 234% | 1.00 |
| Anderson Primary | 0% | 100% | 267% | 143% | 0.80 |
| Nan Chiau Primary | 0% | 100% | 262% | 300% | 1.00 |
| Catholic High | 14% | 100% | 244% | 294% | 1.00 |
| Admiralty Primary | -11% | 100% | 234% | 164% | 1.00 |
| Bukit Panjang Primary | 0% | 100% | 230% | 142% | 0.93 |
| Henry Park Primary | -9% | 100% | 227% | 150% | 0.89 |
| Canberra Primary | 0% | 100% | 223% | 167% | 1.00 |
| Princess Elizabeth Primary | 0% | 100% | 221% | 215% | 1.00 |
| CHIJ St Nicholas Girls’ | 0% | 100% | 219% | 172% | 1.00 |
| Yu Neng Primary | 0% | 100% | 217% | 156% | 0.96 |
| Endeavour Primary | -22% | 100% | 199% | 66% | 0.42 |
| West Grove Primary | -10% | 100% | 195% | 304% | 1.00 |
| Mee Toh | 0% | 100% | 191% | 194% | 1.00 |
| Shuqun Primary | -10% | 100% | 189% | 113% | 0.78 |
| Evergreen Primary | 0% | 100% | 188% | 167% | 1.00 |
| Xinmin Primary | 0% | 100% | 187% | 126% | 0.98 |
| Pei Chun Public | 0% | 100% | 187% | 188% | 1.00 |
| Rivervale Primary | 14% | 100% | 185% | 227% | 1.00 |
| Pasir Ris Primary | 0% | 100% | 182% | 139% | 0.93 |
| Tao Nan | 0% | 100% | 180% | 149% | 1.00 |
| Nanyang Primary | 0% | 100% | 177% | 145% | 1.00 |
| Hong Wen | 0% | 100% | 175% | 126% | 0.89 |
| Chongzheng Primary | 0% | 100% | 174% | 156% | 1.00 |
| Kong Hwa | 0% | 100% | 171% | 165% | 0.91 |
| St Joseph’s Institution Junior | 0% | 100% | 157% | 142% | 0.67 |
| Chongfu Primary | 0% | 100% | 155% | 152% | 1.00 |
| Gongshang Primary | 0% | 100% | 154% | 166% | 1.00 |
| Keming Primary | 0% | 100% | 153% | 119% | 0.87 |
| Fengshan Primary | 0% | 100% | 149% | 95% | 0.38 |
| Methodist Girls’ School (Primary) | 0% | 100% | 146% | 119% | 0.91 |
| Radin Mas Primary | 0% | 100% | 146% | 140% | 0.87 |
| Jiemin Primary | 0% | 100% | 139% | 127% | 0.69 |
| Hougang Primary | 0% | 100% | 135% | 138% | 1.00 |
| St Andrew’s Junior | 0% | 100% | 135% | 131% | 0.84 |
| Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary | -9% | 100% | 135% | 132% | 0.82 |
| St Gabriel’s Primary | 0% | 100% | 134% | 84% | 0.13 |
| De La Salle | 0% | 100% | 133% | 186% | 1.00 |
| Innova Primary | 0% | 100% | 132% | 73% | 0.40 |
| Yangzheng Primary | -14% | 100% | 130% | 75% | 0.00 |
| Greenwood Primary | -11% | 100% | 129% | 99% | 0.80 |
| Edgefield Primary | 13% | 100% | 127% | 73% | 0.00 |
| Anglo-Chinese School (Junior) | 0% | 100% | 125% | 126% | 0.78 |
| Beacon Primary | 0% | 100% | 125% | 92% | 0.60 |
| Anglo-Chinese School (Primary) | 0% | 100% | 125% | 154% | 0.91 |
| Greenridge Primary | 0% | 100% | 125% | 97% | 0.60 |
| Holy Innocents’ Primary | -10% | 100% | 125% | 137% | 0.91 |
| Jurong Primary | 0% | 100% | 124% | 116% | 0.69 |
| CHIJ Our Lady Queen of Peace | 0% | 100% | 124% | 128% | 0.36 |
| Maris Stella High | -6% | 100% | 123% | 122% | 0.60 |
| Maha Bodhi | 0% | 100% | 123% | 122% | 0.96 |
| St Anthony’s Primary | -11% | 100% | 123% | 196% | 1.00 |
| Unity Primary | 0% | 100% | 120% | 114% | 0.87 |
| CHIJ Primary (Toa Payoh) | 0% | 100% | 120% | 129% | 0.89 |
| Singapore Chinese Girls’ Primary | 0% | 100% | 119% | 116% | 0.87 |
| Frontier Primary | 0% | 100% | 118% | 0% | 0.00 |
| CHIJ (Kellock) | 0% | 100% | 117% | 109% | 0.31 |
| Zhangde Primary | 0% | 100% | 117% | 114% | 0.56 |
| CHIJ Our Lady of the Nativity | 0% | 100% | 117% | 120% | 0.47 |
| White Sands Primary | 0% | 100% | 116% | 115% | 0.87 |
| Fairfield Methodist Primary | 0% | 100% | 114% | 134% | 0.91 |
| St Margaret’s Primary | 0% | 100% | 114% | 112% | 0.27 |
| River Valley Primary | 0% | 100% | 113% | 115% | 0.67 |
| Kuo Chuan Presbyterian Primary | 0% | 100% | 111% | 123% | 0.67 |
| Compassvale Primary | 14% | 100% | 111% | 134% | 0.93 |
| Raffles Girls’ Primary | -10% | 100% | 110% | 170% | 0.58 |
| Paya Lebar Methodist Girls’ | 0% | 100% | 109% | 123% | 0.73 |
| St Stephen’s | 0% | 100% | 107% | 129% | 0.36 |
| Ngee Ann Primary | 0% | 100% | 107% | 99% | 0.13 |
| Poi Ching | -11% | 100% | 106% | 108% | 0.76 |
| Yew Tee Primary | 0% | 100% | 106% | 110% | 0.84 |
| Geylang Methodist School | 0% | 100% | 106% | 113% | 0.49 |
| Chua Chu Kang Primary | -11% | 100% | 105% | 77% | 0.00 |
| CHIJ Our Lady of Good Counsel | 0% | 100% | 105% | 110% | 0.38 |
| CHIJ (Katong) Primary | 0% | 100% | 105% | 102% | 0.18 |
| Elias Park Primary | 0% | 100% | 104% | 90% | 0.27 |
| Tampines Primary | 0% | 100% | 104% | 48% | 0.00 |
| East Spring Primary | 0% | 100% | 103% | 149% | 1.00 |
| Fuchun Primary | 0% | 100% | 103% | 106% | 0.62 |
| Clementi Primary | 0% | 100% | 100% | 114% | 0.62 |
| Kheng Cheng | 0% | 100% | 100% | 84% | 0.04 |
| Woodgrove Primary | 0% | 99% | 98% | 113% | 0.49 |
| Tanjong Katong Primary | -11% | 98% | 94% | 79% | 0.00 |
| North Vista Primary | 0% | 97% | 95% | 52% | 0.00 |
| Telok Kurau Primary | 0% | 97% | 94% | 101% | 0.49 |
| Jurong West Primary | 0% | 95% | 90% | 222% | 1.00 |
| Teck Ghee Primary | 14% | 95% | 91% | 65% | 0.00 |
| Cedar Primary | 0% | 94% | 89% | 66% | 0.02 |
| Qifa Primary | 0% | 93% | 88% | 60% | 0.11 |
| Woodlands Primary | 0% | 91% | 81% | 61% | 0.00 |
| Xingnan Primary | -10% | 91% | 82% | 88% | 0.18 |
| Punggol Primary | -13% | 90% | 83% | 73% | 0.02 |
| Haig Girls’ | 0% | 90% | 85% | 64% | 0.00 |
| Lakeside Primary | -10% | 90% | 80% | 57% | 0.00 |
| Woodlands Ring Primary | 13% | 89% | 79% | 131% | 0.69 |
| Fernvale Primary | 0% | 88% | 82% | 40% | 0.00 |
| Bedok Green Primary | 0% | 87% | 79% | 55% | 0.00 |
| Concord Primary | 0% | 87% | 76% | 75% | 0.00 |
| Anchor Green Primary | 0% | 85% | 78% | 36% | 0.00 |
| Jing Shan Primary | 0% | 84% | 74% | 52% | 0.00 |
| Ang Mo Kio Primary | 0% | 84% | 74% | 79% | 0.00 |
| Gan Eng Seng Primary | 0% | 83% | 71% | 62% | 0.00 |
| Zhenghua Primary | -10% | 83% | 70% | 66% | 0.00 |
| Changkat Primary | 0% | 83% | 73% | 80% | 0.00 |
| St Anthony’s Canossian Primary | 0% | 81% | 69% | 89% | 0.02 |
| Marymount Convent | 0% | 78% | 68% | 70% | 0.02 |
| Bukit View Primary | 0% | 78% | 65% | 56% | 0.00 |
| Casuarina Primary | 0% | 77% | 57% | 65% | 0.00 |
| Qihua Primary | 0% | 76% | 62% | 42% | 0.00 |
| Peiying Primary | 0% | 76% | 61% | 50% | 0.00 |
| Horizon | 22% | 75% | 70% | 12% | 0.00 |
| New Town Primary | 0% | 74% | 62% | 47% | 0.00 |
| Yumin Primary | 0% | 73% | 51% | 51% | 0.00 |
| Corporation Primary | -20% | 72% | 56% | 28% | 0.00 |
| Junyuan Primary | 17% | 72% | 55% | 41% | 0.00 |
| North View Primary | 0% | 72% | 58% | 45% | 0.00 |
| Ahmad Ibrahim Primary | 0% | 71% | 58% | 48% | 0.00 |
| Yishun Primary | 0% | 71% | 50% | 63% | 0.00 |
| Queenstown Primary | 0% | 69% | 54% | 54% | 0.00 |
| Tampines North Primary | 0% | 69% | 46% | 71% | 0.00 |
| Pioneer Primary | 0% | 69% | 45% | 49% | 0.00 |
| Fuhua Primary | 0% | 68% | 44% | 53% | 0.00 |
| Townsville Primary | 0% | 68% | 51% | 67% | 0.00 |
| Park View Primary | 0% | 66% | 47% | 56% | 0.00 |
| Bendemeer Primary | 0% | 66% | 53% | 72% | 0.07 |
| Xishan Primary | 0% | 65% | 41% | 44% | 0.00 |
| Mayflower Primary | 14% | 63% | 43% | 49% | 0.00 |
| Greendale Primary | 13% | 62% | 40% | 34% | 0.00 |
| Pei Tong Primary | 0% | 62% | 39% | 44% | 0.00 |
| Wellington Primary | 13% | 61% | 43% | 56% | 0.00 |
| Marsiling Primary | 0% | 61% | 42% | 31% | 0.00 |
| Meridien Primary | 0% | 60% | 38% | 60% | 0.00 |
| Lianhua Primary | 0% | 59% | 39% | 52% | 0.00 |
| Si Ling Primary | 0% | 59% | 36% | 25% | 0.00 |
| Boon Lay Garden Primary | -10% | 57% | 38% | 30% | 0.00 |
| Huamin Primary | 0% | 57% | 33% | 46% | 0.00 |
| Cantonment Primary | 0% | 56% | 51% | 7% | 0.00 |
| Yuhua Primary | 0% | 55% | 34% | 41% | 0.00 |
| Canossa Convent Primary | 0% | 54% | 35% | 45% | 0.00 |
| Bukit Timah Primary | 0% | 53% | 35% | 35% | 0.00 |
| Kranji Primary | -11% | 52% | 23% | 21% | 0.00 |
| Seng Kang Primary | 0% | 51% | 25% | 45% | 0.00 |
| Xinghua Primary | 14% | 49% | 29% | 39% | 0.00 |
| West View Primary | -11% | 49% | 28% | 35% | 0.00 |
| North Spring Primary | 13% | 49% | 29% | 33% | 0.00 |
| Yio Chu Kang Primary | 0% | 48% | 26% | 24% | 0.00 |
| Naval Base Primary | 0% | 48% | 26% | 26% | 0.00 |
| Stamford Primary | 17% | 47% | 33% | 30% | 0.00 |
| Montfort Junior | -13% | 46% | 30% | 38% | 0.00 |
| Dazhong Primary | 20% | 45% | 23% | 24% | 0.00 |
| Juying Primary | 14% | 43% | 15% | 18% | 0.00 |
| Eunos Primary | 17% | 42% | 23% | 40% | 0.00 |
| Coral Primary | 0% | 42% | 22% | 26% | 0.00 |
| Zhonghua Primary | 0% | 42% | 25% | 25% | 0.00 |
| Sembawang Primary | 25% | 41% | 21% | 50% | 0.00 |
| Opera Estate Primary | 0% | 41% | 22% | 17% | 0.00 |
| Da Qiao Primary | 0% | 36% | 19% | 35% | 0.00 |
| Griffiths Primary | 0% | 36% | 15% | 15% | 0.00 |
| MacPherson Primary | 17% | 36% | 21% | 24% | 0.00 |
| Loyang Primary | 0% | 32% | 18% | 19% | 0.00 |
| Teck Whye Primary | 0% | 31% | 12% | 19% | 0.00 |
| Damai Primary | 0% | 28% | 11% | 24% | 0.00 |
| East Coast Primary | 0% | 28% | 14% | 21% | 0.00 |
| First Toa Payoh Primary | 0% | 28% | 11% | 18% | 0.00 |
| Blangah Rise Primary | -14% | 27% | 11% | 10% | 0.00 |
| East View Primary | 0% | 26% | 8% | 21% | 0.00 |
| Balestier Hill Primary | 0% | 26% | 13% | 19% | 0.00 |
| Guangyang Primary | 20% | 24% | 14% | 10% | 0.00 |
| Farrer Park Primary | 0% | 23% | 12% | 20% | 0.00 |
| Qiaonan Primary | 0% | 23% | 9% | 12% | 0.00 |
| Hong Kah Primary | 0% | 21% | 9% | 15% | 0.00 |
| Bedok West Primary | 0% | 14% | 7% | 6% | 0.00 |
P1 registration
I have to register my daughter for P1 2013. Here is my dilemma, Haig Girls (my second choice,albeit a very good school) is in the 1 to 2km category, CHIJ Katong (my first choice) is in the >2km category. I have had all sorts of half baked ideas thrown at me by other parents and am thoroughly confused! I don't want my daughter to be stuck with neither schools due to my misinformation. If anybody has any suggestions to a course of action,I would truly appreciate it!
Short by couple blocks for less than 1km
Hi, I am just couple blocks short and I miss the <1km, is there a chance to appeal to put myself as <1km? Based on the query, it is only 200m away...
Registration for Catholic
Hi,
I have a boy and girl who are both baptised Catholics and I wish to send them to St Stephen's and CHIJ (Katong) Primary. May I know if I am not staying within 1KM from the school now as I am still staying in AMK, can I still register for these schools? Also if I move to the East side next year but my house is not within 1KM, can I still register them using Catholic status? If yes, under which phase?
Thanks!
Full process of admission to Primary 1
Hi,
My daughter is due in P1 in 2013. Cedar Primary is within 1 km from where we stay. It went for balloting last few years. I am eligible for 2C.
(1)Suppose I register for Cedar and do not get the seat. What will be the next thing to do?
(2) Do I have to register for schools withing 1 km or 1-2 km? Can I register for any other school, CHIJ-Our Lady of Nativity which is not within 2 km? If I do not get there, what will be the next thing to do?
Temasek Primary
Hi Parents. I am new here. I live within 1km of Temasek Primary School, but I got rejected on my PV.
I intend to put my son in Temasek for P1 - 2013. However, the chances to get in on 2C is rather slim.
Can you recommend other Primary Schools around Bedok area that I can consider if Temasek is not successful?
Which school stands a better chance?
Hi hi,
I have applied for PV for RS and Yuneng Pri in Bedok last year. Both are unsucessful. Decides to register my son in Yuneng or Fengshan this year. Both of within 1km. So can anyone kindly tell me which school stands a better chance in Phase 2C? Thanks Thanks!
Confused
Dear all,
I am pretty new here. Need advice from you experts. I am staying in CCK and my kids are taken care by my parents.
Both my place and my parents' place are more than 1km but less than 2km from De La Salle and St Anthony Respectively.
Will be under 2C for both school. Was thinking if I should take my chance or not...wat are the chances..
Will it help if my kid excel in something for example swimming? will it increase the chance? thank you
@berger
You are out of luck. You won't even get a chance to take a chance.
Both schools had required balloting for those living within 1km in phase 2C. You, being in the 1 - 2km range, will not get a chance to ballot at all.
You'd better planned for another school in the area.
See balloting history here: http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/content/singapore-primary-1-registration-school-balloting-history
help! what should i choose? **REVISED**
Hi, am staying within 1km of Tao Nan, Ngee Ann and CHIJ Katong
Our choices to try at 2C will be Tao nan however, i need to also prepare to go 2C supp for other schools.
Need advice or suggestions if i should try if we fail to get into Tao nan which other schools we can try base on their history for 2C supp??
Ngee Ann or CHIJ Katong
We really dont wish to have our P1 child travel too far.. we prefer walking distance
AND we prefer the school has after school care too..
Tampines schools dilemma
Hi Chief and all Parents
my boy will be going P1 next year but I am not PV nor staff or alumni of the schools in my vicinity:
St. Hilda's: 1 - 2km
Poi Ching: 1 - 2km
Gongshang: <1km
guess my chances may not be high anywhere as I am too late to register as PV. Chief or any kind parent has any advice to share?
@doomslair
hi
Based on past years' registration statistics, if the trend continues, your chances are as follow:
- St Hilda's - No chance. Balloting likely for < 1km.
- Poi Ching - Likely need to ballot. Best chance out of these 3
- Gongshang - need to ballot. Balloting odds likely to be smaller than Poi Ching
Come join us in the forum. There is a thread for parents like yourself to discuss on which primary schools in Tampines to select.
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=452
Good luck !
Any other way out ?
Hi Chief and Parents,
Need expert advise on strategies for Next year P1 registration...Looking at the statistics / pass year balloting history. Know that St Hidal's is out of question for me even though i am staying within 1km. Given these choices, please advise which school should be my first/second or even 3rd choice for phase 2C :
1km:St hidal's ; Junyuan Pri ; East View Pri
1-2km: Tampines Pri, Yuneng Pri, Damai Pri, QiaoNan Pri, Bedok west Pri,Red Swastika Pri, Poi Ching Pri
<2Km : Fengshan Pri , Bedok Green Primary
<3km : Telok Kura Pri ( Old boy )
really like your kind advise... ( almost going besek )..
Thank you very much for your kind attention.
warmest regard
Help!!!!
Hi Crystalbelle
Did anyone reply to your email to comment on it. Me too just like u staying in Tampines. I hv rejected by St Hildas for the parent volunter work. I hope my child can enter into the school but also afraid falling in phase 2C is might not be so lucky in the balloting. So hw......... I'm so worry now.
balloting phases
for phase 2C, if the ballot is unsucessful for 1 school.
is there enough time for application for another school under phase 2C or we have to apply for schools which have phase 2C (S) ?
@denloi
Balloting is done after the close of registration of that phase. So by the time you know you have failed in balloting, phase 2C registration would have been over. Therefore, you can only proceed to phase 2C(S).
Application in 2C
Is there any limitation on how many schools can be applied in Phase 2C? Can we apply for two or three schools in the same phase? Thanks.
Re: Application in 2C
You are allowed to apply to only ONE school in each phase.
AT
Dear Admin,
what are the chances of AT <1km under Phase 2C.
I can see the number of seats left under the entire 2C but I cannot see the breakdown between 1km and 2km.
Are you able to advise kindly please?
Stress....
Hi all,
I totally agree with all on the frustrations of having no priority for staying within 1km from the primary school..
there is something very wrong with this system and it is high time it needs to be reviewed. May i know where and what can we do to air our views and highlight to the people that can make things happen?
I really feel that another few years down the road, all vacancies will be taken by the 1st 2 phases.... cos especially for alumnis, it is always an evergrowing number... and seriously, who is there to track that the alumni applicants are really true....??
Hi Nattynatty,I agreed with
Hi Nattynatty,
I agreed with you totally that the existing P1 registration process require drastic improvement, especially on the Phase 2A eligibility. My girl's school, about 80% of the total seats have been taken before Phase 2B. I do understand that it is good to have the kids to share & learn the value and culture of the parents by studying at the same school. However, without considering where are the kids staying now, most of them actually have to travel long distance everyday to the school.
And also, I have heard that some parents who only studied at that particular school for a few months, but eligibiled to register under Phase 2A2. Where are the value and culture came from then?
For us who did not 'studied' at the desired school previously, we have to contribute hours of volunteer work, shift house within 1km, or join grassroot organisation, just in order to be qualified to ballot for the remaining seats at Phase 2B. Is it too tough for us?
Maybe MOE shd be doing something over at their side
Maybe MOE shd be doing something over at their side
Going thru MOE Places Still left Over after Phase 2C(S)
There are MORE than 20 Schools ALL OVER Spore esp. in the New estates that have Over 100 even 120 Places ( 3 FULL CLASSES ) Nobody wants OR NOT FILLED OR RESERVED FOR FOREIGN STUDENTS in Ph 3???
If MOE can reserve THAT kind of Resources ( Facilities, teachers, support Staff ,etc, ect. for these nearly 2000 Places
Then why dont they channel some of these RESERVES ( like Our Gov. Own ) into those Popular Schools That People within 1KM Cant Even Get to Ballot themselves ??? ( ie. Bt Timah Zone , Marine Parade Zone , AMK , ie. The SAP Schools , even neighborhood Schools like Rulang ,Now even Choa Chu Kang Pri and ZhangDe????
Its Just That MOE decides WHAT TO DO WITHOUT regard to Whats Happening to people like U AND ME
Not to Mention resulting in some NEGLECTED Neighorhood schools with over 120places left WHY WHY WHY??
Can they explain why schools like BLANGAH RISE ? MacPherson Pri? First ToaPayoh? Tampines Zone 3 Schools total : Griffiths , QiaoNan ,EastView have over 100 leftover places when they say they cant allocate resources for those schools we cant get in within 1 to 2km?
Even 100Year Old Schools like ZHONGHUA??
Coral Pri, Loyang in Pasir Ris , Balestier Hill Pri, Farrer Park Pri???
TeckWhye Pri? Daqiao Pri in AMK? STAMFORD PRI Right in the City?
HongKah Pri and mine downstairs Blangah Rise Pri ??
Damai, East Coast , Bedok West Pri???
Didn't manage to ballot in :( what is next?
Dear Chief...
We are also one of the unlucky ones who didn't get to ballot into IJ Kellocks.
After the results were announced... i simply do not know what is the next step now.
We were weighing between St Margs and IJ Kellocks...
Dtstance wise, IJ is definitely nearer... but still its a lost battle.
We like our DD to go to a girls school.. and the nearest now is Marymount (up Farrer Road) or Canossa (PIE!)
Our backup plan
1) MaryMount Convent -with only 53 seats up for grabs and we are out of 2KM.
2) Canossa Convent - with only 55 seats up for grabs and we are out of 2KM.
3) Gan Eng Seng - With 40 seats and we are within 1KM.
If we choose to go with Marymount... will we be making the wrong choice again?
I do not know if we can withstand the agony of not going through the same ballot episode again.
Also, my dd being dissappointed , yet again.
Can you kindly advice please?
Thank you
Tabo mama
At Ph 2 C(S) These Schools are Gems Left Waiting To Be Picked !
At Ph 2 C(S) These are Gems Leftover to be picked - Under-Valued Stocks in PRI schools for those still deciding where to go after failure at Phase 2 (C)
Study past balloting history
Hi tabofamily, think the best thing to do would be to study the balloting history for the 3 schools you listed.
1) MCS - traditionally balloting >2 km at 2C (S)
2) Canossa - no balloting in 2C (S)
3) GES - no balloting in 2C (S) for less than 1km
To save yourself the heartache and pain, your best bets are really Canossa or GES. If going to an all girls school is top priority, Canossa would be it. If distance is the priroty, GES would be ideal. All the best!
Yes, michyms has suggested a
Yes, michyms has suggested a very sound approach for your Phase 2C(S) planning.
Actually, if you had informed me that you were considering MCS earlier for Phase 2C, I would have told you to just register there at Phase 2C. I did mention that both Kellock and St Margarets will require balloting for your distance.
In any case, MCS is likely to require balloting at Phase 2C(S) for >2km. While its Phase 2C TUR this year is 5% lower than the same stage last year, it is still high enough for the risk of balloting to happen.
Agree w this Think u
Agree w this
Think u better take advantage of your reserved 1km trumpcard for GESPS than risk anything further > 2km and end up at Ph 3 with those FOREIGNERS having the cheek to post asking for PHASE 3 Data ( This is first time For Phase 3 according to MOE
That mens FIRST Time WE SPOREANS Need to FIGHT Tooth and NAil with the FOREIGNERS for the remaining Places in OUR OWN COUNTRY FOr Our Own Schools ????
Very sorry to say i am the one that took one of those places at IJ Kellock
BUT i Would rather ALL SPOREANS Get IN FIRST Minus the SPRs who got in BEFORE Ph2C with PV and during PHASE 2C With their 1KM Trump card !
Understand Fully your desire to get you DD into a Convent
But maybe you shd have gone straight to CHIJ Toa Payoh Since Even There Only 5 Got knocked Out Instead of 20 at kellock which was a shock to me also as i checked on FRIDAY end of Phase 2C 2PM and there is still 30 places left with 29Applicants But When day closed another 15 Girls' parents pullted out from RMPS and took another 15 places leaving us 35 > 2km to fight for the 15 places left!!
Dear LEEK5, It is necessary
Dear LEEK5,
It is necessary to get our facts right before posting in a public forum. Otherwise, we run into the danger of misinforming others despite our best intentions.
For Singaporeans and PRs who did not succeed in getting a place after Phase 2C(S), they can either:
1) Request MOE to do the posting for their child (which MOE will assign the nearest school that still has vacancies). There is really no need for them to participate in Phase 3, unless they do not like the school which MOE has identified.
2) or participate in Phase 3, which is a strange option to take.
Phase 3 Data
Can you please provide data for Phase 3 only numbers last year..?
thanks
Dear vinsharma1808, We do not
Dear vinsharma1808,
We do not keep Phase 3 data because it was previously on a first-come-first-served basis. It is only changed this year to a ballot phase.
However, it is easy to infer Phase 3 vacancies from our Ballot History. Simply look at the schools whose TUR has not reached 100% by the end of Phase 2C(S).
PHASE 3 FOR FOREIGNERS NOT EVEN PRs
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Thanks Chief
Dear Kiasu Chief,
thanks for having such a great website that serves as a wonderful resource for us parents. I dare say apart from MOE website, yours is the most frequented for parents who are concerned with their children's education.
Having followed the analysis and information posted, we got our DD into our first choice school. In no small part, DW and i think a lot of credit came from the website, without which we would never have been able to fanthom an adequate and correct strategy.
Kudos to you Chief. Long may u continue to help the parents as an 'unofficial guide' for everyone's benefit.
On the current hot topics here, yes, i do agree the entire system of allocating spaces to our kids (esp <2km) needs to be re-looked at by MOE. There is a growing discontent brewing and the kids are the ones who suffer the most from the bizarre scenarios we are faced with today and esp in this year's balloting. Really hope MOE reviews and finetunes the rules w.r.t distance, PRs, etc.
Dear manyoo692005, Thank
Dear manyoo692005,
Thank you! Your happiness in being able to get your child into your choice school is reward enough for us. We hope your child will enjoy her school and vindicate the efforts you have made to put her there.
While we have been doing this for the past 3 years, this year is quite unlike other years, where the overall take-up rate across all schools versus the last 5 years have changed quite dramatically. Parents are also a lot more vocal this year regarding their dissatisfaction with the system, probably due to the "new-found" openness brought about by the GE.
We believe there is enormous pressure on MOE to change or at least tweak the system. However, we do not believe there is any way MOE can hope to satisfy everybody. This is about the allocation of limited resources to too many people. There is no way to make everyone happy.
What we hope is that when MOE does change the system, it is more in terms of providing greater transparency in the entire process and allow parents to make more informed decisions about the risks they are taking and the alternatives they have. At least, let people go into balloting with their eyes wide open, and give those who baulk at any form of balloting a chance to register in other schools before the end of the Phase 2C.
Distance should be the priority
I was unsuccessful in the Phase 2C ballot for the nearest school from my house. The school is just approx 250m away.
The school has a total vacancy of 240. Approx 50% of the students admitted are staying outside the 2 km radius, which are admitted <2C.
We now have to go for schools which are further away. The MOE policies have caused students being displaced to further schools. Distance should be one of the major factors in allocating places for schools!! MOE should relook at the allocation criteria!!!
Unsuccessful Phase 2C - Distance
I've been in yr shoe being sooo frustrated. Firstly I seeked my MP help but useless (put on waiting list), MOE replied "It is fair balloting between PRs and S'poreans.
Then directly went to MOE, their replied " Hope u have a speedy recovery".
At last, thank God , I won. If MOE has their law, I too has my own motherly law. I fought till the end.. for my children. End of the day, it is u who decides.
Kudos n congrats, fattymamalove
That's the spirit. Was urs a case over too many PRs vying for the vacancies or it was about close proximity? What was ur justification to MOE?
We should fight for our rights! I dread and am sure my children too will feel dreadful having to travel far just to go to school. Why should we put up with this ineffective/unjust system we have. I will not give up either...it's our kids' future we are talking about here!
Review on admission Criteria
The admission criteria is way over due for a review, especially phase 2A1 and 2A2. Shouldnt it be also subject seats allocation as well? I.e. Balance of seats from Phrase one will be equally divided into 2A, 2B to 2C.
This will also help LTA on traffic congestion problem. Too many old boys and girls are sending their children into their former school despite leaving <2km away.
Couldn't agree more. That
Couldn't agree more. That will be giving an equal chance for the pple staying near the school. Each of phase 2 should have the same number of vacancies.
Yeah.. Must change the
Yeah.. Must change the admission criteria...Will there be a point where there is no vacancy for phase 2B and 2C? By next generation, all popular school will be occupy by old boys n girls at phase 2A1 n 2A2.
Hi there, i didnt manage to
Hi there, i didnt manage to get my son into school of choice which is <1km away...
however, i doubt it is the PRs. For my choice of school, i know there are many parents are former students and thus enrol their kids in that school in central... But they live in various parts of the island, west, east, northeast... and i live within walking distance!!!! Why do the the parents wanna make their kids travel i wonder.. I feel sad i have to get my son up early and travel to God knows where he will be enrolled....
I can't agree with you more.
I can't agree with you more. Whole system need to be reviewed, PR is a problem but not main issue.Fo those entitled to enroll at 2A1,2A2 enjoy unlimited gurantee to get a seat in a school of choice regarless the home school distance, this is really unfair...
Hi All Sporeans Parents
Hi All Sporeans Parents Ballot Refugees From Ph 2C
For those who didnt make it during last FRI Balloting
My advice is
Dun Ever bank on your luck and try for luck in Phase 2 C Balloting
If you fail Really You are in with the Lions and Wolves in the arena come THU and FRI Ph 2 C (S)
you will loose your backup 2nd choice School in Ph2C(S) also becuase of the Ballot Refugees from within 1~2Km of that remaining school of your choice
Case Eg. for Bt Merah
3 Schools Balloting
RMPS 37 Kids will be left without Places
ZDPS another about 20
And CHIJ Kellok where i got in another 20
Presuming The Girls from CHIJ Kellok ( out of 2km ) would not go for the remaining Bt Merah School West of CHIJ
that leaves hopefully 57 Kids ( boys n girls ) fighting for the nearest School available GAN ENG SENG ( 40 places )
That Means ANOZTHER BALLOTING Since all RMPS are within 1Km of RMPS and 1~2Km of GESPS and not to mention ZDPS ( Ballot 1`2Km ) and within 2Km of GESPS
For the girls who didnt get in CHIJ Kellock 20 of them my advice is to proceed towards town for Canossian Convent Vacancies in Geylang OR even MaryMount Convent up North and not try to fight with the remaining boys elsewhere like in Gan Eng Seng!!
Thats my only advice i can give to those defeated 15 to 20 ( 15 IN 20 OUT ) at CHIJ on FRI
For the Ballot Stats
Fyi
i have TWIN Kids means i have 2XBallot ( 4 Votes )Chances than Sporeans balloting not to mention SPRs ( 1 Vote )
AND yet for the 15 Places Left balloted by 33 other people excluding my 2 kids , my only 1 out 4 ballots was ONLY fished out from the heap on the 12th go with ONLY 4 places left meaning the next go left with 2 places as i took 2 ! With Double Odds AND with a lot of luck i got one vote which ensured BOTH my kifs got in
Fyi , also Dun bet on your luck and try to bring ur kids to the ballot , as far as i can noticed
MOST if NOT ALL Balloted IN Parents PRESENT was without their kids in tow
NONE if NOT only 1 Parent with Kids got IN and
For LUCK sake ; 2 Ballots was fished OUT TWICE ( AND one of them was the 3 Sets of PARENTS Balloted IN AND NOT PRESENT!!)
SO much to say about giving SPOREANS another Ballot to Play Russian Roulette Wonder whether they would play it themselves and say hey i remove 1 bullet from PRs Gun and 2 Bullets from SC's gun , Would They Dare to pull the trigger themselves if they are the Sporean holding the gun? Yeah tell that to those MOE guys and say IF they dare to play the Russian Roulette this way then they can make us to do Over Again and Agin Evry Year???
Dear
Dear LEEK5,
Congratulations.
While we are happy you managed to get your twins into the school you desired, you are mistaken if you thought you had 2 ballots per twin or 4 ballot slips total in the ballot pool.
If you had opted to place your twins under a single vote, you will only have 2 ballot slips for BOTH your twins, which means you had as much chance of winning a ballot as a normal Singaporean with 1 child.
Also, given that you had won the places for your children, I'm not sure why you are continuing your crusade against PRs and the MOE. Would you prefer the system to be changed so you may not even get those places you have gotten even if you are very lucky?
Dear Chief, I am one of the
Dear Chief,
I am one of the victims(Singaporean) who didn't manage to win the ballot for my twins. Now I am not with any GOOD choice school as all those schools in my area are popular and I am left with 0 chance in schools <2KM.
So I had no choice but to plan those outside 2Km. Any suggestion for my consideration, as i have a boy and a girl?
East / West / South / North - Distance is not an issue as I can move for the sake of kids. What I am looking for is a GOOD School & Safe bet.
Some options I thought are
1. Queenstown
2. New Town
3. Marymount and Townsville (2 diff schools for my daughter and son)
4. Qifa??? (Not sure whether I get this as it's very limited no of seats)
It's very painful when you are not getting a school just 500m apart :(
Regards
@Pleasuremom: u are not alone...
We are also planning to put our kids in our school of choice which is a good school that provides all-rounded program. It is within walking distance but it is one of the most sought after schools in SG and in my neighbothood!
Now that we were unsuccessful in Phase 2C balloting, we have to search for the next best option for our DD. This happens to be a convent school and most likely a balloting will be conducted becos everyone else who failed to put their kid in their first choice will be vying the same too!
So if we were to succeed in putting our DD in the convent school, that means we would have to worry for our DS future :( Need to restart again...
This is not the best strategy but looking at what the remaining schools have to offer to our kids are simply not what we are looking for...* Sigh*...stress, frustratuon, anger....really feeling sick!
@kidznme, I understand your
@kidznme, I understand your situation completely. Wish you good luck. Hope you get what you wish for this time. I am so blank about the choice that we have currently. Not sure where I will end up... Lost sleeps for few weeks already.
@Leek5, 'm from BT. I can't be happy about the brave defeat :( What I am hoping is to choose a school (from the available ones) that has a good history especially in character development. Hope that choice is still open for me.
@pleasuremom: Wish you luck
@pleasuremom: Wish you luck too. I have not been sleeping well too, ever since I know I need to go through balloting and even now after the unsuccessful outcome. Even though I have Plan B (girl-school) and C (co-ed school) for my DD but they are not the most ideal options because they are far away from where we are living now and they do not meet our top criteria but we have no choice :(
Like you, I was looking for a school with both academic and character development excellence. Plus, it must be a co-ed school so that my DS will enjoy priority registration later.
Whether it is Plan B or C for my DD, it means we have to move house. We are very reluctant but for our kids' future, we have no choice but to consider this costly and stressful option. It is really unfair to people like us, don't you think? Being balloted out of a school nearby and watching our kids being sent to a school far away instead.
I am not from your zone so I can't really advise you much. But if you are looking for a "decent" school, Guangyang, Gan Eng Seng and Marymount Convent are ok. Some friends' kids are in the latter two. So far their learning and behavior are pleasant. You can't compare them with those elite ones, you know what I mean.
Thank you kidznme
Yes. I agree. If you see that its just affecting their currect chance, it's not true. It's not just my DD / DS, its their siblings, kids, and again their kids... etc. If you think that way, it makes you even more frustrating. The system should be reviewed again for a fair admission. Why MOE is not doing anything about it? It's like richer getting more richer. I am even ok if richer getting more richer. But why should be the same theory in studies.
Thanks for suggesting the options. Gan Eng Seng is good but i wonder whether they will have any seats for more than 2Km without balloting. Otherwise, it looks good as I have twins. My first preference is still a "decent" school for my twin kids, so mixed school. Still figuring out the backup options for Guangyang.
@pleasuremom: weight your options well...
We only left with 2 days to make our final decision and that is going to be with us forever...yucks! This is what happened when the current system forced us into despair.
If you prefer Choice A, go register it on Day 1. Monitor the situation till Day 2. If your chance is slim (which we hope not- wish you the best), make sure you have enough time to withdraw and travel to Choice B to register your kids.
We need all the luck now and forever for our kids in the school we have decided for them. Just hope that they grow up to understand and appreciate the pain and effort we have to go through for them just to get them into primary school education in SG!
PleasureMom
Agree fully with Kidzme So Proximity betw. the 2 schools is crucial which is why i say Safe Bet GuanYang at Bishan ( for Both ) with a side Option to Withdraw your DD there and go over MaryMount within half an hr in a cab and get her registered in at the last minute But it will be VERY taxing But for your DD Future should consider But Both schools Staff MUST Help you Out by ensuring you can do it at the very last minute on FRIDAY ( although i think it may be safer to register then withdrawn from Marymount when Balloting seems imminent and get her in together at GuanYang since i think there shd be ample places ( 136!)
If there is Balloting at MM then it may be VERY risky to get involved and then go to GuanYang on Phase 3 First Come First Basis as We SPOREANS shouldnt be treated like this just because we want the BEST for our kids' Future!
After Phase 2C(S)
Correction.
Singaporean & PR who are unsuccessful in securing a place in phase 2C(S), can opt for MOE to allocate a place in a school that still have vacancies and is as closiest as possible to the applicant's home. This allocation is done before start of phase 3.